Faith

From metawiki
Several common varieties of faith tradition

In a system based on certainty, what is the role of faith?

I don't have faith in god. I know god exists with absolute certainty. Because god is the universe. And I know the universe exists.

Gödel Proved We Will Always Need Faith

There is always uncertainty in science. There is infinite information and finite knowledge. This fact means that there will always be mystery and the unknown in the universe.

This has been proven mathematically by Gödel.

No matter how far science advances, there will always be new discoveries to be made, new mysteries to be solved, things that must be bet on rather than known for sure.

If you were to calculate the Mandelbrot fractal for a million years using the fastest computer available, how much of it would still remain unknown? Infinity.

It's a big universe. There will always be mystery that requires faith to cope with it. No amount of science can take that away, it can only get slightly closer to that unobtainable goal.

Faith and Optimism

Having hope that things will work out for the best, knowing that the universe is fundamentally good, or being optimistic about the future, all require some degree of faith. We cannot know for sure that things will work out, but believing that they will makes you happier. And being happier makes you more capable, more affable, and more likely to succeed in whatever your goals are. This turns your faith in optimism into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

This is the real principle behind The Secret and other pseudoscientific self-help notions that our beliefs manifest reality. We can increase the probabilities in our favor through self-improvement, but we cannot literally make things happen unless we help make them happen ourselves. God helps those and all that.

The god concept puts this principle into practice by generalizing faith in the goodness of the universe in order to create a reflexive happiness reaction to all of life's ups and downs.

Faith and Doubt

Doubt is the inevitable by-product of faith. To minimize doubt, move as much of your belief system from faith to certainty by grounding it in science. There will be plenty left to believe in when you're done.

Faith is what you bet on in life because it can't be known for sure.

Take the afterlife as an example. Belief in consciousness after death, with the type of self-awareness we have when we are living, requires faith to believe in since there is no way to verify this claim one way or the other (though it seems unlikely). However, if the afterlife is defined as the imprint of our life's actions on the universe echoing through the infinite fractal of time, this can be believed with certainty. This must be true due to the laws of physics, and requires no supernatural belief system to have faith in.

How does it impact the peace of mind you receive knowing that your actions will live on through their impact, versus having faith that your consciousness will live on? This probably depends on your attachment to ego. But for those who do not think that the universe revolves around them, the certainty of the laws of physics provide ample psychological comfort and moral incentive without the doubt that faith can never quash.

Cartesian Doubt

Everyone needs to have a good Cartesian Doubt at least once in their lives. This will usually take place after some significant revelation about the nature of the universe that causes you to have to rethink a number of things. If you have to rethink many things, you might as well rethink everything, and that's where Cartesian Doubt comes in handy.

Should you find the idea of fractal pantheistic universalism persuasive and decide it's time to adopt a new belief system, give your brain the Cartesian Doubt it deserves and reform the fractal pattern of your mind.

Faith Versus Certainty

metaculture offers certainty without dogma. Other religions that profess to have found all the answers become rigid and dogmatic, unable to incorporate new information. Though they ostensibly offer faith, what they really provide is certainty. This certainty is what allows false beliefs like creationism and evolution denial to obscure their view of reality.

You can be certain of that for which there is evidence without claiming certainty about the unknown or the unknowable, or that the literal interpretation you make of scripture is inerrant. Basing your certainty on evidence allows conflicting evidence to re-introduce doubt. If you hold self-correction as a core belief, and embrace science without hubris, you can walk the tightrope between faith and certainty without falling into the abyss of dogma.

Certainty Versus Inclusiveness

In the effort to be inclusive of all cultures, many secular and progressive people are unwilling to go all in on any belief system. This cultural relativism and its implied moral relativism fails to appeal to people with a strong innate sense of right and wrong, which includes anyone with a brain.

While we must embrace people from all cultures and religions, it is not necessary to do this by abandoning our ability to rally around our commonly held beliefs, or advocate for a specific vision of reality and the future. You will never be able to please everyone, but it is impossible to have ideals or inspire zeal without giving people specifics.

That is why despite its universalist nature, the fractal vision of pantheism is put forth as a specific model for how this works, rather than saying "you can believe whatever you want and it's all good". Yes, ultimately it is all good as long as you accept science and adhere to best practices, but there are specific benefits to the interdependent model being advocated that you may not get if you go your own way.

Pantheism, Faith, and Certainty

The question of "does god exist?" is no longer a question of faith when one adopts the pantheistic perspective on the definition of god. It is tantamount to asking "does the universe exist?" which has a significantly higher metaphysical probability, high enough to enter the realm of "certainty".

If the most important function of god is the creation of the god concept in the mind of the believer, having faith in the supernatural as a necessary prerequisite simply makes this goal harder to achieve. A definition of god whose existence cannot be questioned will receive much more widespread adoption, especially as critical thinking becomes more common.

The biggest doubt one can have in the truth of pantheism is over the question of whether this was the original intent of our ancestors or not. Did they see a separation between the supernatural and the natural before widespread knowledge of science? Were the original authors of scripture aware of their use of allegory? These are the unknowable questions of pantheism, but their answers really don't have any impact on whether it makes sense as a definition for god.

Faith is a Former Feature, Now a Bug

Before widespread science education, faith was necessary to have any belief system whatsoever. No other viable explanation of creation existed. Faith was an assumption, and it allowed for the creation of religion and everything that came with it.

Now that most people are aware of science, its conflicts with scriptural literalism, and experience the cognitive dissonance it causes, the requirement of faith becomes an impediment to finding meaning through traditional religious means. It prevents secular people from finding a connection. It also makes spiritual people more susceptible to grift, conspiracy, misinformation and other forms of control. It is still an important concept, but its importance is over-emphasized by most religions (especially the Abrahamic ones), and when it is prioritized above actual evidence that contradicts it, faith inhibits spiritual and scientific growth.

Having a sense of spirituality that doesn't have faith in the supernatural as a necessary prerequisite will be necessary to form secular institutions that serve the social functions of religion for future generations.

Modern Faith is Trust in Institutions

In order for modern society to function, it is necessary to have faith in the institutions of democracy, science, and capitalism. It is impossible to truly "do your own research" on 99.99% of the things you interact with daily. You must trust that there is a system in place to ensure that evidence has been peer reviewed, products have been tested for safety, and government will act to make our lives better. Even if you have lost trust in institutions, you must still put your faith in them every day when you turn on your lights, connect to the Internet, eat, drive, buy anything, and so on.

This trust must be earned through transparency, balance of power, equal justice, and incentives for self-correction. The public must also have sufficient education to understand these principles enough to establish that trust. While you can't know how everything works, anyone can learn these general concepts well enough to recognize when we can or must have trust, when we should be skeptical, and the best ways to improve the system and restore that trust.

What cannot happen is a general loss in faith in all institutions. We can improve the equal application of justice in our legal system without saying it is inherently corrupt. While there may be many examples of unequal justice that you can point to, beyond that are millions of other cases where a criminal is caught red-handed and punished. If too many people buy into the inherent corruption argument, it will no longer be possible to prosecute any criminals, because you will never find twelve people that will vote to convict. That's when you find out that a bad system is better than no system.

Continuous self-improvement using incentives are the best way to fix the problems with the deeply entrenched systems of modernity and restore the people's faith in institutions.

Faith in the YouTube Algorithm

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Richard Rohr - Faith is Not Certainty


This video does a good job of demonstrating where faith and science meet from a Catholic perspective. We will always have to bet on the unknowable aspects of reality regardless of whether we wager on the supernatural or not.

Do God and science contradict each other?


George Michael - Faith