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== Revolution! ==
== Revolution! ==


Your government has oppressed you for long enough. It's time for ''you'' to become the oppressor! Start a Revolution!
Your government has oppressed you for long enough. It's time for ''you'' to become the oppressor! [[Evolution#Evolution, Not Revolution|Start a Revolution]]!


== Is the /s Really Needed? ==
== Is the /s Really Needed? ==


Obviously a [[philosophy]] with the goal of creating a [[In-group|universal in-group]] is fundamentally against war. War [[is bad]].
Obviously a [[philosophy]] with the goal of creating a [[In-group|universal in-group]] is fundamentally against war. War [[is bad]].
Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal conviction for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and self-determination not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be necessary because any truly just cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.
Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct experience with the horrors world wars and the Algerian occupation, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.


Is it possible to end all major wars between nations by creating a common cause? Will it require a common federalist-style global government to solve disputes between nations? What change in human [[consciousness]] will be required to allow the majority of people to accept such an idea? Currently any mention of a "new world order" elicits a [[contrarian]] and [[conspiratorial]] backlash. But without one, how will we ever solve the problem of war? Just asking questions. Peace-baiting questions.
Is it possible to end all major wars between nations by creating a common cause? Will it require a common federalist-style global government to solve disputes between nations? What change in human [[consciousness]] will be required to allow the majority of people to accept such an idea? Currently any mention of a "new world order" elicits a [[contrarian]] and [[conspiratorial]] backlash. But without one, how will we ever solve the problem of war? Just asking questions. Peace-baiting questions.

Latest revision as of 21:46, 12 June 2024

Certainly sounds preferable

War. What is it good for?

Taking Over Other People's Territory

If someone has a lot of nice land and you want it, war is generally the best option for obtaining it.

Polygamy

Do you live in a polygamist society and have a lot of extra dudes wandering around with nothing to do? Start a war!

People Keep Talking About Your Sex Scandal

Go ahead--wag that dog!

Oil, Oil, and More Oil

You need oil. They have oil. Start a war!

Narcissistic Orange Man is Sore Loser

There's no need to accept an election if you don't like the result. Might makes right! Start a war!

Revolution!

Your government has oppressed you for long enough. It's time for you to become the oppressor! Start a Revolution!

Is the /s Really Needed?

Obviously a philosophy with the goal of creating a universal in-group is fundamentally against war. War is bad.

Professing a belief in metaculture should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal conviction for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and self-determination not dogma. Conscripted military service should never be necessary because any truly just cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.

Of course, Camus said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct experience with the horrors world wars and the Algerian occupation, and this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus and relating it to current conflicts.

Is it possible to end all major wars between nations by creating a common cause? Will it require a common federalist-style global government to solve disputes between nations? What change in human consciousness will be required to allow the majority of people to accept such an idea? Currently any mention of a "new world order" elicits a contrarian and conspiratorial backlash. But without one, how will we ever solve the problem of war? Just asking questions. Peace-baiting questions.

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