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Here's a breakdown of how the pantheistic view of god is compatible with each of these traits.
Here's a breakdown of how the pantheistic view of god is compatible with each of these traits.


[[Creation]]: the universe is self-creating and self-organizing. These principles are also why the universe is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysical_necessity Inevitable].
[[Creation]]: the universe is self-creating and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organization self-organizing]. These principles are also why the universe is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysical_necessity Inevitable].


[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotent Omnipotent]: unless you want to get into logical paradoxes like god creating a rock so big that god cannot lift it, omnipotence must be interpreted as being all-powerful within the realm of logical possibility. This is why the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_noncontradiction Law of Noncontradiction] exists both in most serious works of theology as well as the rules of logic.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotent Omnipotent]: unless you want to get into logical paradoxes like god creating a rock so big that god cannot lift it, omnipotence must be interpreted as being all-powerful within the realm of logical possibility. This is why the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_noncontradiction Law of Noncontradiction] exists both in most serious works of theology as well as the rules of logic.

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In any discussion of religion it is important to start with a definition of what "god" is.

Each person both holds a mental picture of what "god" means to them, along with presuppositions for what "god" means to others, especially if they subscribe to a different religious belief system.

Most of the time those presuppositions are wrong and inevitably result in misunderstanding.

So before any substantive discussion of religion takes place it is important to agree on, or at least understand, what both parties mean when they refer to "god".

In monotheistic traditions, "god" has several common elements:

Is there anything that exists in the known universe that can exhibit all of these properties? Only the universe itself both exists and has all of the properties ascribed to god. Therefore any references to "god" that are made within this wiki shall assume the Pantheistic definition.

Here's a breakdown of how the pantheistic view of god is compatible with each of these traits.

Creation: the universe is self-creating and self-organizing. These principles are also why the universe is Inevitable.

Omnipotent: unless you want to get into logical paradoxes like god creating a rock so big that god cannot lift it, omnipotence must be interpreted as being all-powerful within the realm of logical possibility. This is why the Law of Noncontradiction exists both in most serious works of theology as well as the rules of logic.

Omniscient: the problem of information storage means that without some supernatural compression algorithm, for any external being to have full knowledge of every atom in the universe it would require an information storage mechanism as large as the universe itself to represent it. Therefore the universe itself is the only conceivable storage device capable of omniscience.

Omnipresent: if god is the universe, then god is everywhere.

Omnibenevolent: since god is everything, god is also everything that is good. While good and evil are products of the human brain, the human brain is also part of the universe and therefore part of god. The universe itself is not necessarily on either side of the good versus evil dichotomy, but the human brain is. The notion of omnibenevolence is necessary to maximize the psychological benefit of the god concept. Even though the universe itself definitely doesn't care about you, it is inherently advantageous to view it as a very good place to live one's life.

Eternal: while the current instance of our universe appears to have a beginning with the big bang about 13.8 billion years ago, and will inevitably collapse or experience heat death in another 200 billion years (give or take), this still doesn't quite make it to "eternal". For organisms with a lifespan of under 100 years, this is pretty darned eternal. But if you really want time to be infinite then it becomes necessary to look outside of our current universe. Though we currently lack the technology to gain empirical knowledge of what lies outside the known universe, it is easy to conceive an eternal multiverse without a supernatural actor. The universe could simply repeat its 200 billion year cycle of birth and death over and over forever, or it could be a part of a multiverse with an infinite number of universes being created and destroyed every second.

Transcendent: this is the one property of god that the physical universe cannot manifest, since by definition "transcendent" means apart from the physical universe. But there is something that exists in the abstract that governs everything that happens in the universe--the rules of logic and the mathematical systems that are derived from it. In metaculture, the transcendent is represented by the fractal, a mathematical construct that is infinite, logical, self-organizing and beautiful. God is the universe (implying Immanence) but the universe is also the product of the abstract rules of logic and therefore transcendent.