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Doubt is the [[inevitable]] by-product of [[faith]]. To minimize doubt, move as much of your [[belief system]] from faith to certainty by grounding it in [[science]]. There will be plenty left to [[bet|believe in]] when you're done.
Doubt is the [[inevitable]] by-product of [[faith]]. To minimize doubt, move as much of your [[belief system]] from faith to certainty by grounding it in [[science]]. There will be plenty left to [[bet|believe in]] when you're done.
[[The Gambler|Faith is what you bet on in life]] because it can't be known for sure.


== Faith Versus Certainty ==
== Faith Versus Certainty ==

Revision as of 12:41, 7 January 2024

In a system based on certainty, what is the role of faith?

Gödel Proved We Will Always Need Faith

There is always uncertainty in science. There is infinite information and finite knowledge. This fact means that there will always be mystery and the unknown in the universe.

This has been proven mathematically by Gödel.

No matter how far science advances, there will always be new discoveries to be made, new mysteries to be solved, things that must be bet on rather than known for sure.

If you were to calculate the Mandelbrot fractal for a million years using the fastest computer available, how much of it would still remain unknown? Infinity.

It's a big universe. There will always be mystery that requires faith to cope with it. No amount of science can take that away, it can only get slightly closer to that unobtainable goal.

Faith and Doubt

Doubt is the inevitable by-product of faith. To minimize doubt, move as much of your belief system from faith to certainty by grounding it in science. There will be plenty left to believe in when you're done.

Faith is what you bet on in life because it can't be known for sure.

Faith Versus Certainty

metaculture offers certainty without dogma. Other religions that profess to have found all the answers become rigid and dogmatic, unable to incorporate new information. Though they ostensibly offer faith, what they really provide is certainty.

You can be certain of that for which there is evidence without claiming certainty about the unknown or the unknowable. If you hold self-correction as a core belief, and embrace science without hubris, you can walk the tightrope between faith and certainty without falling into the abyss of dogma.

Certainty Versus Inclusiveness

In the effort to be inclusive of all cultures, many secular and progressive people are unwilling to go all in on any belief system. This cultural relativism and often moral relativism fails to appeal to people with a strong innate sense of right and wrong, which includes anyone with a brain.

While we must embrace people from all cultures and religions, it is not necessary to do this by abandoning our ability to rally around our commonly held beliefs, or advocate for a specific vision of reality and the future. You will never be able to please everyone, and it is impossible to have ideals or inspire zeal without giving people specifics.

That is why despite its universalist nature, the fractal vision of pantheism is put forth as a specific model for how this works, rather than saying "you can believe whatever you want and it's all good". Yes, ultimately it is all good as long as you accept science and adhere to best practices, but there are specific benefits to the interdependent model being advocated that you may not get if you go your own way.

Faith in the YouTube Algorithm

The algorithm said you would like this video.

Richard Rohr - Faith is Not Certainty


George Michael - Faith