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Fractalguy at 20:13, 23 May 2025

2025-05-23T20:13:49Z

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	Obviously a [[philosophy]] with the [[goal]] of creating a [[In-group\|universal in-group]] is fundamentally against war. War [[is bad]].		Obviously a [[philosophy]] with the [[goal]] of creating a [[In-group\|universal in-group]] is fundamentally against war. War [[is bad]].

	To be honest, if you're reading this [[wiki]] and you need a "/s" to recognize [[wikipedia:Sarcasm\|sarcasm]], then [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUGBT1DZDI you're gonna have a bad time].		To be honest, if you're reading this [[wiki]] and you need a "/s" to recognize [[wikipedia:Sarcasm\|sarcasm]], then [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUGBT1DZDI you're gonna have a bad time].<blockquote>''"Those who love peace must learn to organize as effectively as those who love war."'' -[[wikipedia:Martin_Luther_King_Jr.\|Martin Luther King Jr.]]</blockquote>Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal [[conviction]] for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and [[self-determination]] not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be [[necessary]] because any truly [[just]] cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.

	Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal [[conviction]] for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and [[self-determination]] not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be [[necessary]] because any truly [[just]] cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.

	Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus\|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct [[experience]] with the horrors world wars and the Algerian occupation, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.		Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus\|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct [[experience]] with the horrors world wars and the Algerian occupation, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.

Fractalguy at 12:39, 16 February 2025

2025-02-16T12:39:40Z

Fractalguy: /* Is the /s Really Needed? */

2025-02-02T06:20:46Z

Is the /s Really Needed?

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	Is it possible to end all major wars between nations by creating a common cause? Will it require a common federalist-style global government to solve disputes between nations? What change in human [[consciousness]] will be required to allow the majority of people to accept such an idea? Currently any mention of a "new world order" elicits a [[contrarian]] and [[conspiratorial]] backlash. But without one, how will we ever solve the problem of war? Just asking questions. Peace-baiting questions.		Is it possible to end all major wars between nations by creating a common cause? Will it require a common federalist-style global government to solve disputes between nations? What change in human [[consciousness]] will be required to allow the majority of people to accept such an idea? Currently any mention of a "new world order" elicits a [[contrarian]] and [[conspiratorial]] backlash. But without one, how will we ever solve the problem of war? Just asking questions. Peace-baiting questions.

			Revisiting this Ali G video in 2025 finds that it offers a surprisingly practical, relevant, and grade-level appropriate discussion of whether or not we should "nuke Canada."

	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCaiHbNz0kU\|\|center\|Ali G - War\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCaiHbNz0kU\|\|center\|Ali G - War\|frame}}

Fractalguy: /* Is the /s Really Needed? */

2025-01-22T11:26:13Z

Is the /s Really Needed?

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	To be honest, if you're reading this [[wiki]] and you need a "/s" to recognize [[wikipedia:Sarcasm\|sarcasm]], then [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUGBT1DZDI you're gonna have a bad time].		To be honest, if you're reading this [[wiki]] and you need a "/s" to recognize [[wikipedia:Sarcasm\|sarcasm]], then [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUGBT1DZDI you're gonna have a bad time].

	Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal conviction for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and self-determination not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be necessary because any truly just cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.		Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal [[conviction]] for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and self-determination not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be necessary because any truly just cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.

	Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus\|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct experience with the horrors world wars and the Algerian occupation, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.		Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus\|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct experience with the horrors world wars and the Algerian occupation, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.

Fractalguy: /* Is the /s Really Needed? */

2025-01-02T18:48:40Z

Is the /s Really Needed?

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	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XHEPoMNP0I\|\|center\|Bob Marley - War\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XHEPoMNP0I\|\|center\|Bob Marley - War\|frame}}
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			{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_38SWIIKITE\|\|center\|Barry McGuire - Eve of Destruction\|frame}}

Fractalguy at 12:13, 23 December 2024

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	== Polygamy ==		== Polygamy ==

	Do you live in a polygamist society and have a lot of extra dudes wandering around causing trouble because they have nothing to do? Start a war!		Do you live in a polygamist [[society]] and have a lot of extra dudes wandering around causing trouble because they have nothing to do? Start a war!

	== People Didn't Vote For You ==		== People Didn't Vote For You ==

Fractalguy at 12:13, 23 December 2024

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	If someone has a lot of nice land and you want it, war is generally the best option for obtaining it.		If someone has a lot of nice land and you want it, war is generally the best option for obtaining it.

	== ~~Polygamy~~ ==		== Oil, Oil, and More Oil ==

	~~Do you live in a polygamist society and~~ have ~~a lot of extra dudes wandering around with nothing to do?~~ Start a war!		You need oil. They have oil. Start a war!

	== People Keep Talking About Your Sex Scandal ==		== People Keep Talking About Your Sex Scandal ==

	Go ahead--[~~https~~:~~//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/~~Wag_the_Dog wag that dog]!		Go ahead--[[wikipedia:Wag_the_Dog\|wag that dog]]!

	== ~~Oil, Oil, and More Oil~~ ==		== Polygamy ==

	~~You need oil. They~~ have ~~oil.~~ Start a war!		Do you live in a polygamist society and have a lot of extra dudes wandering around causing trouble because they have nothing to do? Start a war!

	== ~~Narcissistic Orange Man is Sore Loser~~ ==		== People Didn't Vote For You ==

	There's no need to accept an election if you don't like the result. Might makes right! Start a war!		There's no need to accept an election if you don't like the result. Might makes right! Start a war!

Fractalguy: /* Revolution! */

2024-12-23T01:35:18Z

Revolution!

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	== Revolution! ==		== Revolution! ==

	Your government has oppressed you for long enough. It's time for ''you'' to become the oppressor! [[Evolution#Evolution, Not Revolution\|Start a Revolution]]!		Your [[government]] has oppressed you for long enough. It's time for ''you'' to become the oppressor! [[Evolution#Evolution, Not Revolution\|Start a Revolution]]!

	== Is the /s Really Needed? ==		== Is the /s Really Needed? ==

	Obviously a [[philosophy]] with the goal of creating a [[In-group\|universal in-group]] is fundamentally against war. War [[is bad]].		Obviously a [[philosophy]] with the goal of creating a [[In-group\|universal in-group]] is fundamentally against war. War [[is bad]].

			To be honest, if you're reading this [[wiki]] and you need a "/s" to recognize [[wikipedia:Sarcasm\|sarcasm]], then [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUGBT1DZDI you're gonna have a bad time].

	Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal conviction for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and self-determination not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be necessary because any truly just cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.		Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal conviction for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and self-determination not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be necessary because any truly just cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.

Fractalguy: /* Is the /s Really Needed? */

2024-06-13T01:46:47Z

Is the /s Really Needed?

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	Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal conviction for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and self-determination not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be necessary because any truly just cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.		Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal conviction for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and self-determination not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be necessary because any truly just cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.

	Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus\|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct experience with the horrors ~~of two~~ world wars, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.		Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus\|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct experience with the horrors world wars and the Algerian occupation, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.

	Is it possible to end all major wars between nations by creating a common cause? Will it require a common federalist-style global government to solve disputes between nations? What change in human [[consciousness]] will be required to allow the majority of people to accept such an idea? Currently any mention of a "new world order" elicits a [[contrarian]] and [[conspiratorial]] backlash. But without one, how will we ever solve the problem of war? Just asking questions. Peace-baiting questions.		Is it possible to end all major wars between nations by creating a common cause? Will it require a common federalist-style global government to solve disputes between nations? What change in human [[consciousness]] will be required to allow the majority of people to accept such an idea? Currently any mention of a "new world order" elicits a [[contrarian]] and [[conspiratorial]] backlash. But without one, how will we ever solve the problem of war? Just asking questions. Peace-baiting questions.

Fractalguy: /* Is the /s Really Needed? */

2024-06-13T01:45:09Z

Is the /s Really Needed?

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	Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal conviction for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and self-determination not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be necessary because any truly just cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.		Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal conviction for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and self-determination not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be necessary because any truly just cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.

			Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus\|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct experience with the horrors of two world wars, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.

	Is it possible to end all major wars between nations by creating a common cause? Will it require a common federalist-style global government to solve disputes between nations? What change in human [[consciousness]] will be required to allow the majority of people to accept such an idea? Currently any mention of a "new world order" elicits a [[contrarian]] and [[conspiratorial]] backlash. But without one, how will we ever solve the problem of war? Just asking questions. Peace-baiting questions.		Is it possible to end all major wars between nations by creating a common cause? Will it require a common federalist-style global government to solve disputes between nations? What change in human [[consciousness]] will be required to allow the majority of people to accept such an idea? Currently any mention of a "new world order" elicits a [[contrarian]] and [[conspiratorial]] backlash. But without one, how will we ever solve the problem of war? Just asking questions. Peace-baiting questions.

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	Obviously a [[philosophy]] with the [[goal]] of creating a [[In-group\|universal in-group]] is fundamentally against war. War [[is bad]].		Obviously a [[philosophy]] with the [[goal]] of creating a [[In-group\|universal in-group]] is fundamentally against war. War [[is bad]].

	To be honest, if you're reading this [[wiki]] and you need a "/s" to recognize [[wikipedia:Sarcasm\|sarcasm]], then [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUGBT1DZDI you're gonna have a bad time].		To be honest, if you're reading this [[wiki]] and you need a "/s" to recognize [[wikipedia:Sarcasm\|sarcasm]], then [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUGBT1DZDI you're gonna have a bad time].<blockquote>''"Those who love peace must learn to organize as effectively as those who love war."'' -[[wikipedia:Martin_Luther_King_Jr.\|Martin Luther King Jr.]]</blockquote>Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal [[conviction]] for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and [[self-determination]] not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be [[necessary]] because any truly [[just]] cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.

	Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal [[conviction]] for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and [[self-determination]] not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be [[necessary]] because any truly [[just]] cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.

	Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus\|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct [[experience]] with the horrors world wars and the Algerian occupation, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.		Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus\|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct [[experience]] with the horrors world wars and the Algerian occupation, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.

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	[[File:War-make-love-not-what-is-it-good-for-absolutely-nothing.jpg\|thumb\|Certainly sounds preferable]]		[[File:War-make-love-not-what-is-it-good-for-absolutely-nothing.jpg\|thumb\|Certainly sounds preferable]]
	War. What is it good for?		War. What is it [[good]] for?<blockquote>''"You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake."'' -[[wikipedia:Jeannette_Rankin\|Jeannette Rankin]]</blockquote>

	== Taking Over Other People's Territory ==		== Taking Over Other People's Territory ==
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	== People Didn't Vote For You ==		== People Didn't Vote For You ==

	There's no need to accept an election if you don't like the result. Might makes right! Start a war!		There's no need to accept an election if you don't [[like]] the result. Might makes right! Start a war!

	== Revolution! ==		== Revolution! ==

	Your [[government]] has oppressed you for long enough. It's time for ''you'' to become the oppressor! [[Evolution#Evolution, Not Revolution\|Start a Revolution]]!		Your [[government]] has oppressed you for long enough. It's [[time]] for ''you'' to become the oppressor! [[Evolution#Evolution, Not Revolution\|Start a Revolution]]!

	== Is the /s Really Needed? ==		== Is the /s Really Needed? ==

	Obviously a [[philosophy]] with the goal of creating a [[In-group\|universal in-group]] is fundamentally against war. War [[is bad]].		Obviously a [[philosophy]] with the [[goal]] of creating a [[In-group\|universal in-group]] is fundamentally against war. War [[is bad]].

	To be honest, if you're reading this [[wiki]] and you need a "/s" to recognize [[wikipedia:Sarcasm\|sarcasm]], then [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUGBT1DZDI you're gonna have a bad time].		To be honest, if you're reading this [[wiki]] and you need a "/s" to recognize [[wikipedia:Sarcasm\|sarcasm]], then [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUGBT1DZDI you're gonna have a bad time].

	Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal [[conviction]] for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and self-determination not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be necessary because any truly just cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.		Professing a [[belief]] in [[metaculture]] should be grounds to excuse you from military service as a pacifist. However, it should also not prevent you from serving in a war of territorial defense, or one in which you feel deep personal [[conviction]] for its justness. The goal is realism, not idealism, and [[self-determination]] not [[dogma]]. Conscripted military service should never be [[necessary]] because any truly [[just]] cause will attract the necessary volunteers without it.

	Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus\|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct experience with the horrors world wars and the Algerian occupation, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.		Of course, [[wikipedia:Albert_Camus\|Camus]] said all of this with much greater eloquence and direct [[experience]] with the horrors world wars and the Algerian occupation, and [https://player.fm/series/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing-118651/gaza-camus-and-the-logic-of-violence this podcast does a better job of summarizing Camus] and relating it to current conflicts.

	Is it possible to end all major wars between nations by creating a common cause? Will it require a common federalist-style global government to solve disputes between nations? What change in human [[consciousness]] will be required to allow the majority of people to accept such an idea? Currently any mention of a "new world order" elicits a [[contrarian]] and [[conspiratorial]] backlash. But without one, how will we ever solve the problem of war? Just asking questions. Peace-baiting questions.		Is it possible to end all major wars between nations by creating a common cause? Will it require a common federalist-style global government to solve disputes between nations? What change in human [[consciousness]] will be required to allow the majority of people to accept such an [[idea]]? Currently any mention of a "new world order" elicits a [[contrarian]] and [[conspiratorial]] backlash. But without one, how will we ever solve the problem of war? Just asking questions. Peace-baiting questions.

	Revisiting this Ali G video in 2025 finds that it offers a surprisingly practical, relevant, and grade-level appropriate discussion of whether or not we should "nuke Canada."		Revisiting this Ali G video in 2025 finds that it offers a surprisingly practical, relevant, and grade-level appropriate discussion of whether or not we should "nuke Canada."