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Theoretical Future Music

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	== Theoretical Future Music ==		== Theoretical Future Music ==
	The best depiction of theoretical future [[music]] in cinema is in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a72W8hP9QNE Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure], where a song they have yet to compose will one day bring world peace.{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}		The best depiction of theoretical future [[music]] in cinema is in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a72W8hP9QNE Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure], where a song they have yet to compose will one day bring world peace.
			{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}
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			{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOi3F00oJtI\|\|center\|Tokyo Police Club - Citizens of Tomorrow\|frame}}

Fractalguy at 23:15, 30 November 2025

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	A [[society]] that maximizes [[happiness]] will ensure that the [[social]] impact of new [[technology]] is always mitigated by a strong [[social safety net]]. When new [[technology]] causes significant changes in the labor market, people should have ample time to seek new [[education]] and await good new [[job]] opportunities that don't require relocation.		A [[society]] that maximizes [[happiness]] will ensure that the [[social]] impact of new [[technology]] is always mitigated by a strong [[social safety net]]. When new [[technology]] causes significant changes in the labor market, people should have ample time to seek new [[education]] and await good new [[job]] opportunities that don't require relocation.

	[[~~File:Transhuman-political-compass~~.~~jpeg\|center\|frameless\|600x600px~~]]		== Speculating on What Future People Will Be Like ==
			Most fans of science fiction tend to idealize the "Star Trek" vision of the [[future]] of humanity, where we become ambassadors to the stars, seeking out new life and new civilizations, and generally living in harmony and [[abundance]]. Many of the other science fiction versions of the [[future]] tend toward the dystopian, so Star Trek stands out as one of the few that offers a more [[optimistic]] version without being unrealistically [[utopian]].

	This ~~video~~ is ~~about reviving~~ the [[billionaires]] of ~~the present~~ in the future, not ~~necessarily~~ future ~~people~~, ~~but it's close enough~~.		Transhumanism advocates using [[technology]], [[genetic engineering]], [[artificial intelligence]], and other means to transcend the limitations of the human [[brain]] and body in order to gain superhuman abilities or [[Longevity\|eternal life]]. Too often the advocates of transhumanism are willing to sacrifice the [[well-being]] of the regular humans in order to advance their dreams of advancement. This is bad [[utilitarianism]].

			Transhumanism also tends to jump the gun. For example, uploading your [[consciousness]] to the cloud is highly unlikely to result in a high-fidelity recreation, and may not replicate [[wikipedia:Qualia\|qualia]] at all. Yet, [[billionaires]] who have not bothered to come to terms with their [[mortality]] seem to think this might actually offer a viable solution within their [[Lifetime\|lifetimes]].

			However, when we think on very large time scales like millennia, or even millions of years in the [[future]], it is hared to imagine that there will not be some humans who choose to consciously [[evolve]] themselves, even if the majority choose to stay human. This [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/political-compass political compass meme] charts some of the ways that we envision our interstellar [[future]] with radically extended [[lifespans]].[[File:Transhuman-political-compass.jpeg\|center\|frameless\|600x600px]]

			This video shows a likely scenario that [[billionaires]] who have frozen themselves cryogenically will face in the [[future]], especially if current [[media]] trends continue..

	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0EQU4Qo7NA\|\|center\|Back to Life, Back to Reality\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0EQU4Qo7NA\|\|center\|Back to Life, Back to Reality\|frame}}

Fractalguy at 22:57, 30 November 2025

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	''Effective Altruism ignores the Effect of Altruism'' on our [[emotions]], and the relatively low [[ethical]] value of future humans in the [[moral]] calculus compared to the living that results. Therefore it is less effective and fails to achieve its own stated goals through this error.		''Effective Altruism ignores the Effect of Altruism'' on our [[emotions]], and the relatively low [[ethical]] value of future humans in the [[moral]] calculus compared to the living that results. Therefore it is less effective and fails to achieve its own stated goals through this error.

			{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES-fPqMXXng\|\|center\|The Philosophy of Effective Altruism and Longtermism\|frame}}

	== What's Your Rush ==		== What's Your Rush ==

Fractalguy at 22:54, 30 November 2025

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	A [[society]] that maximizes [[happiness]] will ensure that the [[social]] impact of new [[technology]] is always mitigated by a strong [[social safety net]]. When new [[technology]] causes significant changes in the labor market, people should have ample time to seek new [[education]] and await good new [[job]] opportunities that don't require relocation.		A [[society]] that maximizes [[happiness]] will ensure that the [[social]] impact of new [[technology]] is always mitigated by a strong [[social safety net]]. When new [[technology]] causes significant changes in the labor market, people should have ample time to seek new [[education]] and await good new [[job]] opportunities that don't require relocation.

	[[File:Transhuman-political-compass.jpeg\|center\|frameless\|600x600px]]		[[File:Transhuman-political-compass.jpeg\|center\|frameless\|600x600px]]

			This video is about reviving the [[billionaires]] of the present in the future, not necessarily future people, but it's close enough.

			{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0EQU4Qo7NA\|\|center\|Back to Life, Back to Reality\|frame}}

	== Theoretical Future Music ==		== Theoretical Future Music ==
	The best depiction of theoretical future [[music]] in cinema is in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a72W8hP9QNE Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure], where a song they have yet to compose will one day bring world peace.{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}		The best depiction of theoretical future [[music]] in cinema is in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a72W8hP9QNE Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure], where a song they have yet to compose will one day bring world peace.{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}

Fractalguy: /* What's Your Rush */

2025-11-30T17:00:39Z

What's Your Rush

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	A [[society]] that maximizes [[happiness]] will ensure that the [[social]] impact of new [[technology]] is always mitigated by a strong [[social safety net]]. When new [[technology]] causes significant changes in the labor market, people should have ample time to seek new [[education]] and await good new [[job]] opportunities that don't require relocation.		A [[society]] that maximizes [[happiness]] will ensure that the [[social]] impact of new [[technology]] is always mitigated by a strong [[social safety net]]. When new [[technology]] causes significant changes in the labor market, people should have ample time to seek new [[education]] and await good new [[job]] opportunities that don't require relocation.
			[[File:Transhuman-political-compass.jpeg\|center\|frameless\|600x600px]]

	== Theoretical Future Music ==		== Theoretical Future Music ==
	The best depiction of theoretical future [[music]] in cinema is in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a72W8hP9QNE Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure], where a song they have yet to compose will one day bring world peace.{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}		The best depiction of theoretical future [[music]] in cinema is in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a72W8hP9QNE Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure], where a song they have yet to compose will one day bring world peace.{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}

Fractalguy at 12:38, 6 July 2025

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 == The Effect of Altruism ==
-[[wikipedia:Effective_altruism|Effective Altruism]] advocates for long-term planning and the creation of new [[technologies]] and fortunes in order save or improve the lives of large numbers of people in the [[future]]. However, part of the reason that [[altruism]] works is because of the [[emotional]] impact it has on the giver. [[Altruism]] is an [[emotionally]] [[selfish]] act, even if it is materially [[selfless]]. When you donate [[money]] to a cause, part of the reason for doing that is that it feels good to see the positive effects that the cause is having on real people. This [[emotional]] impact is significantly diminished when the people benefitting do not yet exist.
+[[wikipedia:Effective_altruism|Effective Altruism]] advocates for long-term planning and the creation of new [[technologies]] and fortunes in order save or improve the lives of large numbers of people in the [[future]]. However, part of the reason that [[altruism]] works is because of the [[emotional]] impact it has on the giver. [[Altruism]] is an [[emotionally]] [[selfish]] act, even if it is materially [[selfless]]. When you donate [[money]] to a cause, part of the reason for doing that is that it feels good to see the positive effects that the cause is having on real people. This [[emotional]] impact is significantly diminished when the people benefiting do not yet exist.
-''Effective Altruism ignores the Effect of Altruism'' on our [[emotions]], and the relatively low [[ethical]] value of future humans in the [[moral]] calculus compared to the living that results. Therefore it is less effective and fails to achieve its own stated goals through this error.{{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA||center|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525|frame}}
+''Effective Altruism ignores the Effect of Altruism'' on our [[emotions]], and the relatively low [[ethical]] value of future humans in the [[moral]] calculus compared to the living that results. Therefore it is less effective and fails to achieve its own stated goals through this error.

Fractalguy at 17:18, 28 February 2024

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	Concerns regarding the [[well-being]] of people who have not yet been born into the world are referred to as theoretical people, future humans, and other monikers.		Concerns regarding the [[well-being]] of people who have not yet been born into the world are referred to as theoretical people, future humans, and other monikers.

			== Giving Them Due Consideration ==
	That is not to say that [[future]] generations should not be considered, only that the living should not be asked to make sacrifices to their own [[happiness]] on their behalf if there is any way to avoid it. Any problem in [[society]] should be solved in a way that does not negatively impact [[quality of life]] for the living, and if it can't then people won't buy into it anyway.		That is not to say that [[future]] generations should not be considered, only that the living should not be asked to make sacrifices to their own [[happiness]] on their behalf if there is any way to avoid it. Any problem in [[society]] should be solved in a way that does not negatively impact [[quality of life]] for the living, and if it can't then people won't buy into it anyway.

	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}		== The Effect of Altruism ==
			[[wikipedia:Effective_altruism\|Effective Altruism]] advocates for long-term planning and the creation of new [[technologies]] and fortunes in order save or improve the lives of large numbers of people in the [[future]]. However, part of the reason that [[altruism]] works is because of the [[emotional]] impact it has on the giver. [[Altruism]] is an [[emotionally]] [[selfish]] act, even if it is materially [[selfless]]. When you donate [[money]] to a cause, part of the reason for doing that is that it feels good to see the positive effects that the cause is having on real people. This [[emotional]] impact is significantly diminished when the people benefitting do not yet exist.

			''Effective Altruism ignores the Effect of Altruism'' on our [[emotions]], and the relatively low [[ethical]] value of future humans in the [[moral]] calculus compared to the living that results. Therefore it is less effective and fails to achieve its own stated goals through this error.{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}

Fractalguy at 14:09, 27 January 2024

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	Concerns regarding the [[well-being]] of people who have not yet been born into the world are referred to as theoretical people, future humans, and other monikers.		Concerns regarding the [[well-being]] of people who have not yet been born into the world are referred to as theoretical people, future humans, and other monikers.

	That is not to say that [[future]] generations should not be considered, only that the living should not be asked to make sacrifices to their own [[happiness]] on their behalf if there is any way to avoid it. Any problem ~~can~~ be solved in a way that does not negatively impact [[quality of life]] for the living, and if it can't then people won't buy into it anyway.		That is not to say that [[future]] generations should not be considered, only that the living should not be asked to make sacrifices to their own [[happiness]] on their behalf if there is any way to avoid it. Any problem in [[society]] should be solved in a way that does not negatively impact [[quality of life]] for the living, and if it can't then people won't buy into it anyway.

	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}

Fractalguy at 14:07, 27 January 2024

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	When performing [[utilitarian]] [~~https~~:~~//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/~~Ethical_calculus ethical calculus] it is necessary to prioritize the [[happiness]] of the living over the [[~~abortion~~\|unborn]], the [[~~euthanasia~~\|dying]], and the [[~~crypto~~-bros\|people of the future]]. [[Quality of life]] for the currently living is the most important goal.		[[File:Future-humans-theoretical-people-unborn-extropy-singularity-futurism.jpg\|thumb\|Example of a Theoretical Future Human]]
			When performing [[utilitarian]] [[wikipedia:Ethical_calculus\|ethical calculus]] it is necessary to prioritize the [[happiness]] of the living over the [[Abortion\|unborn]], the [[Euthanasia\|dying]], and the [[Crypto-bros\|people of the future]]. [[Quality of life]] for the currently living is the most important goal.

	Concerns regarding the [[well-being]] of people who have not yet been born into the world are referred to as theoretical people, future humans, and other monikers.		Concerns regarding the [[well-being]] of people who have not yet been born into the world are referred to as theoretical people, future humans, and other monikers.

Fractalguy at 19:32, 6 January 2024

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	Concerns regarding the [[well-being]] of people who have not yet been born into the world are referred to as theoretical people, future humans, and other monikers.		Concerns regarding the [[well-being]] of people who have not yet been born into the world are referred to as theoretical people, future humans, and other monikers.

	That is not to say that future generations should not be considered, only that the living should not be asked to make sacrifices to their own [[happiness]] on their behalf if there is any way to avoid it. Any problem can be solved in a way that does not negatively impact [[quality of life]] for the living, and if it can't then people won't buy into it anyway.		That is not to say that [[future]] generations should not be considered, only that the living should not be asked to make sacrifices to their own [[happiness]] on their behalf if there is any way to avoid it. Any problem can be solved in a way that does not negatively impact [[quality of life]] for the living, and if it can't then people won't buy into it anyway.

	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA\|\|center\|Zager & Evans - In the Year 2525\|frame}}