Supernatural - Revision history

Fractalguy at 12:13, 17 January 2025

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	[[File:Adams-Creation-Sistine-Chapel-Supernatural-God-Literal.jpg\|thumb\|Classic depiction of the supernatural god, that happens to look just like a [[brain]]. Maybe the artist wasn't so supernatural after all?]]		[[File:Adams-Creation-Sistine-Chapel-Supernatural-God-Literal.jpg\|thumb\|Classic depiction of the supernatural god, that happens to look just like a [[brain]]. Maybe the artist wasn't so supernatural after all?]]
	[[metaculture]] rejects the existence of any and all [[wikipedia:Supernatural\|Supernatural]] beings and forces that have the ability to violate the [[laws of physics]]. Supernatural beings that cannot alter physical [[reality]] have no impact on your [[life choices]], so [[belief]] in them is ultimately benign. The [[Pantheism\|Pantheistic]] interpretation maintains the majesty of [[god]] without violating the [[laws of physics]] or making it effectively powerless.		[[metaculture]] rejects the existence of any and all [[wikipedia:Supernatural\|Supernatural]] beings and forces that have the ability to violate the [[laws of physics]]. Supernatural beings that cannot alter physical [[reality]] have no impact on your [[life choices]], so [[belief]] in them is ultimately benign. <blockquote>''"One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word."'' -[[wikipedia:Robert_A._Heinlein\|Robert A. Heinlein]]</blockquote>The [[Pantheism\|Pantheistic]] interpretation maintains the majesty of [[god]] without violating the [[laws of physics]] or making it effectively powerless.

	== The Supernatural as Allegory ==		== The Supernatural as Allegory ==

Fractalguy at 12:11, 17 January 2025

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	== The Supernatural as Allegory ==		== The Supernatural as Allegory ==

	All supernatural depictions in [[scripture]] should be interpreted as [[allegories]] for real people, motivations, and forces within the [[universe]], told by our ancestors with the accumulated wisdom of hundreds of generations of [[mind]]-havers.		All supernatural depictions in [[scripture]] should be interpreted as [[allegories]] for real people, motivations, and forces within the [[universe]], told by our ancestors with the accumulated [[wisdom]] of hundreds of generations of [[mind]]-havers.

	The [[Pantheistic]], [[self-creating]] [[universe]]-[[god]] is used in place of an external, supernatural [[god]] that cannot be observed, has no detectable impact on the [[laws of physics]], and begs the question "who created [[god]]?"		The [[Pantheistic]], [[self-creating]] [[universe]]-[[god]] is used in place of an external, supernatural [[god]] that cannot be observed, has no detectable impact on the [[laws of physics]], and begs the question "who created [[god]]?"

			The personal [[god]], or [[wikipedia:Anthropomorphism\|anthropomorphic]] depictions of [[God\|gods]] generally, reflect idealized personifications of human nature. In [[wikipedia:Polytheism\|polytheistic]] pantheons, each [[god]] represents a single aspect of human nature or [[society]], just like each character of [[wikipedia:Inside_Out_(2015_film)\|Inside Out]] represents a single [[emotion]]. In [[wikipedia:Monotheism\|monotheism]], [[god]] becomes a complete [[meta]]-human and takes on the full spectrum of human personality. This is an incredibly useful [[psychological]] tool for understanding ourselves and holding up a [[moral]] and [[ethical]] ideal that we can model ourselves on.

			As with the [[placebo effect]], it still works even if you know it's not real, and take it with full awareness of that fact. Wrestling is still entertaining even if you know what [[wikipedia:Kayfabe\|kayfabe]] is. Unweaving the rainbow, [[wikipedia:Disenchantment\|disenchanting]] the magical, changes the source of [[wonder]] but not the [[Quality of life\|quality]].

	== Was It Allegory Before Science? ==		== Was It Allegory Before Science? ==

Fractalguy at 22:14, 29 December 2024

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	== Was It Allegory Before Science? ==		== Was It Allegory Before Science? ==

	Before the invention of [[science]], the separation of the [[natural]] and the supernatural was much less pronounced. There was one common [[cultural]] language to talk about the [[universe]] and it involved spirits, angels, demons, [[God Concept\|gods]], and all of the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype archetypes] of mythology. It's basically [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmok Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra]--people communicate using common stories and [[cultural]] reference points, and [[scripture]] is the dictionary.		Before the invention of [[science]], the separation of the [[natural]] and the supernatural was much less pronounced. There was one common [[cultural]] [[language]] to talk about the [[universe]] and it involved spirits, angels, demons, [[God Concept\|gods]], and all of the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype archetypes] of mythology. It's basically [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmok Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra]--people communicate using common stories and [[cultural]] reference points, and [[scripture]] is the dictionary.

	When [[science]] comes along, all of a sudden we now know why the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. We know why the tide goes in and the tide goes out (with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3AFMe2OQY some exceptions]). We know the [[Creation story\|origins of the universe]]. The stories are no longer the explanation; there is another explanation that makes a lot more sense. So what becomes of the stories?		When [[science]] comes along, all of a sudden we now know why the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. We know why the tide goes in and the tide goes out (with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3AFMe2OQY some exceptions]). We know the [[Creation story\|origins of the universe]]. The stories are no longer the explanation; there is another explanation that makes a lot more sense. So what becomes of the stories?

Fractalguy at 10:36, 5 November 2024

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	[[File:Adams-Creation-Sistine-Chapel-Supernatural-God-Literal.jpg\|thumb\|Classic depiction of the supernatural ~~God~~]]		[[File:Adams-Creation-Sistine-Chapel-Supernatural-God-Literal.jpg\|thumb\|Classic depiction of the supernatural god, that happens to look just like a [[brain]]. Maybe the artist wasn't so supernatural after all?]]
	[[metaculture]] rejects the existence of any and all [[wikipedia:Supernatural\|Supernatural]] beings and forces that have the ability to violate the [[laws of physics]]. Supernatural beings that cannot alter physical [[reality]] have no impact on your [[life choices]], so [[belief]] in them is ultimately benign. The [[Pantheism\|Pantheistic]] interpretation maintains the majesty of [[god]] without violating the [[laws of physics]] or making it effectively powerless.		[[metaculture]] rejects the existence of any and all [[wikipedia:Supernatural\|Supernatural]] beings and forces that have the ability to violate the [[laws of physics]]. Supernatural beings that cannot alter physical [[reality]] have no impact on your [[life choices]], so [[belief]] in them is ultimately benign. The [[Pantheism\|Pantheistic]] interpretation maintains the majesty of [[god]] without violating the [[laws of physics]] or making it effectively powerless.

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	== Was It Allegory Before Science? ==		== Was It Allegory Before Science? ==

	Before the invention of [[science]], the separation of the natural and the supernatural was much less pronounced. There was one common [[cultural]] language to talk about the [[universe]] and it involved spirits, angels, demons, gods, and all of the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype archetypes] of mythology. It's basically [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmok Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra]--people communicate using common stories and [[cultural]] reference points, and [[scripture]] is the dictionary.		Before the invention of [[science]], the separation of the [[natural]] and the supernatural was much less pronounced. There was one common [[cultural]] language to talk about the [[universe]] and it involved spirits, angels, demons, [[God Concept\|gods]], and all of the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype archetypes] of mythology. It's basically [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmok Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra]--people communicate using common stories and [[cultural]] reference points, and [[scripture]] is the dictionary.

	When [[science]] comes along, all of a sudden we now know why the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. We know why the tide goes in and the tide goes out (with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3AFMe2OQY some exceptions]). We know the [[Creation story\|origins of the universe]]. The stories are no longer the explanation; there is another explanation that makes a lot more sense. So what becomes of the stories?		When [[science]] comes along, all of a sudden we now know why the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. We know why the tide goes in and the tide goes out (with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3AFMe2OQY some exceptions]). We know the [[Creation story\|origins of the universe]]. The stories are no longer the explanation; there is another explanation that makes a lot more sense. So what becomes of the stories?

Fractalguy at 02:49, 3 October 2024

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	[[File:Adams-Creation-Sistine-Chapel-Supernatural-God-Literal.jpg\|thumb\|Classic depiction of the supernatural God]]		[[File:Adams-Creation-Sistine-Chapel-Supernatural-God-Literal.jpg\|thumb\|Classic depiction of the supernatural God]]
	[[metaculture]] rejects the existence of any and all [[wikipedia:Supernatural\|Supernatural]] beings and forces that have the ability to violate the [[laws of physics]].Supernatural beings that cannot alter physical reality have no impact on your [[life choices]], so belief in them is ultimately benign. The [[Pantheism\|Pantheistic]] interpretation maintains the majesty of [[god]] without violating the [[laws of physics]] or making it effectively powerless.		[[metaculture]] rejects the existence of any and all [[wikipedia:Supernatural\|Supernatural]] beings and forces that have the ability to violate the [[laws of physics]]. Supernatural beings that cannot alter physical [[reality]] have no impact on your [[life choices]], so [[belief]] in them is ultimately benign. The [[Pantheism\|Pantheistic]] interpretation maintains the majesty of [[god]] without violating the [[laws of physics]] or making it effectively powerless.

	== The Supernatural as Allegory ==		== The Supernatural as Allegory ==

Fractalguy at 11:03, 27 January 2024

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	[[File:Adams-Creation-Sistine-Chapel-Supernatural-God-Literal.jpg\|thumb\|Classic depiction of the supernatural God]]		[[File:Adams-Creation-Sistine-Chapel-Supernatural-God-Literal.jpg\|thumb\|Classic depiction of the supernatural God]]
	[[metaculture]] rejects the existence of any and all [[wikipedia:Supernatural\|Supernatural]] beings and forces.		[[metaculture]] rejects the existence of any and all [[wikipedia:Supernatural\|Supernatural]] beings and forces that have the ability to violate the [[laws of physics]].Supernatural beings that cannot alter physical reality have no impact on your [[life choices]], so belief in them is ultimately benign. The [[Pantheism\|Pantheistic]] interpretation maintains the majesty of [[god]] without violating the [[laws of physics]] or making it effectively powerless.

	== The Supernatural as Allegory ==		== The Supernatural as Allegory ==

Fractalguy at 03:36, 24 January 2024

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	[[metaculture]] rejects the existence of any and all [~~https~~:~~//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/~~Supernatural Supernatural] beings and forces.		[[File:Adams-Creation-Sistine-Chapel-Supernatural-God-Literal.jpg\|thumb\|Classic depiction of the supernatural God]]
			[[metaculture]] rejects the existence of any and all [[wikipedia:Supernatural\|Supernatural]] beings and forces.

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	Before the invention of [[science]], the separation of the natural and the supernatural was much less pronounced. There was one common [[cultural]] language to talk about the [[universe]] and it involved spirits, angels, demons, gods, and all of the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype archetypes] of mythology. It's basically [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmok Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra]--people communicate using common stories and [[cultural]] reference points, and [[scripture]] is the dictionary.		Before the invention of [[science]], the separation of the natural and the supernatural was much less pronounced. There was one common [[cultural]] language to talk about the [[universe]] and it involved spirits, angels, demons, gods, and all of the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype archetypes] of mythology. It's basically [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmok Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra]--people communicate using common stories and [[cultural]] reference points, and [[scripture]] is the dictionary.

	When [[science]] comes along, all of a sudden we now know why the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. We know why the tide goes in and the tide goes out (with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3AFMe2OQY some exceptions]). We know the [[~~creation~~ story\|origins of the universe]]. The stories are no longer the explanation; there is another explanation that makes a lot more sense. So what becomes of the stories?		When [[science]] comes along, all of a sudden we now know why the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. We know why the tide goes in and the tide goes out (with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3AFMe2OQY some exceptions]). We know the [[Creation story\|origins of the universe]]. The stories are no longer the explanation; there is another explanation that makes a lot more sense. So what becomes of the stories?

	== Rejecting the Supernatural While Embracing Tradition ==		== Rejecting the Supernatural While Embracing Tradition ==

Fractalguy: /* Rejecting the Supernatural While Embracing Tradition */

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Rejecting the Supernatural While Embracing Tradition

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	Unlike [[atheists]] that tend to reject all notions of [[god]] along with the supernatural, [[metaculture]] embraces the [[traditions]], [[rituals]], symbolism, and connection to [[history]] that [[religion]] provides, while interpreting [[god]] and [[scripture]] in a way that is also fully compatible with [[science]].		Unlike [[atheists]] that tend to reject all notions of [[god]] along with the supernatural, [[metaculture]] embraces the [[traditions]], [[rituals]], symbolism, and connection to [[history]] that [[religion]] provides, while interpreting [[god]] and [[scripture]] in a way that is also fully compatible with [[science]].

	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZak_b78xIU\|\|center\|\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZak_b78xIU\|\|center\|Why do Humans Worship Supernatural Agents?\|frame}}
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	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK-320r5C_4\|\|center\|\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK-320r5C_4\|\|center\|Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Supernaturally\|frame}}

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Was It Allegory Before Science?

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	Before the invention of [[science]], the separation of the natural and the supernatural was much less pronounced. There was one common [[cultural]] language to talk about the [[universe]] and it involved spirits, angels, demons, gods, and all of the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype archetypes] of mythology. It's basically [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmok Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra]--people communicate using common stories and [[cultural]] reference points, and [[scripture]] is the dictionary.		Before the invention of [[science]], the separation of the natural and the supernatural was much less pronounced. There was one common [[cultural]] language to talk about the [[universe]] and it involved spirits, angels, demons, gods, and all of the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype archetypes] of mythology. It's basically [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmok Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra]--people communicate using common stories and [[cultural]] reference points, and [[scripture]] is the dictionary.

	When [[science]] comes along, all of a sudden we now know why the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. We know why the tide goes in and the tide goes out (with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3AFMe2OQY some exceptions]). We know the [[creation story\|origins of the universe]]. The stories are no longer the explanation, there is another explanation that makes a lot more sense. So what becomes of the stories?		When [[science]] comes along, all of a sudden we now know why the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. We know why the tide goes in and the tide goes out (with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3AFMe2OQY some exceptions]). We know the [[creation story\|origins of the universe]]. The stories are no longer the explanation; there is another explanation that makes a lot more sense. So what becomes of the stories?

	== Rejecting the Supernatural While Embracing Tradition ==		== Rejecting the Supernatural While Embracing Tradition ==