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Fractalguy: /* Quantum Woo and Fractal Woo */

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Quantum Woo and Fractal Woo

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	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DGgvE6hLAU\|\|center\|Quantum Physics Woo\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DGgvE6hLAU\|\|center\|Quantum Physics Woo\|frame}}
	<br>		<br>Sabine has her own brand of bullshit when it comes to her criticisms of academia and [[science]], but this video predates her turn towards the anti-establishment [[grift]].
	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKVJEuVkPvw\|\|center\|How to Detect Quantum Bullshit\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKVJEuVkPvw\|\|center\|How to Detect Quantum Bullshit\|frame}}
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Fractalguy: /* Quantum Woo and Fractal Woo */

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Quantum Woo and Fractal Woo

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	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKVJEuVkPvw\|\|center\|How to Detect Quantum Bullshit\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKVJEuVkPvw\|\|center\|How to Detect Quantum Bullshit\|frame}}
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			{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTpxICN-O1U\|\|center\|What is the difference between science and pseudoscience?\|frame}}

	== A Hint of Woo ==		== A Hint of Woo ==

Fractalguy at 13:54, 9 December 2025

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	Using inspirational [[language]], [[holistic]] [[metanarrative]], and a reverence for the [[placebo effect]], it is possible to recreate the sense of [[wonder]], [[emotional]] release and [[healing]] that [[religion]] and [[spirituality]] evoke without relying on the [[supernatural]] or [[pseudoscientific]].		Using inspirational [[language]], [[holistic]] [[metanarrative]], and a reverence for the [[placebo effect]], it is possible to recreate the sense of [[wonder]], [[emotional]] release and [[healing]] that [[religion]] and [[spirituality]] evoke without relying on the [[supernatural]] or [[pseudoscientific]].

			== Problematic Woo ==

			This video from Britt Hartley explores many types of modern [[spirituality]] and how the totally unregulated environment they exist in leads to all kinds of [[grift]] and abuse.

			{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_-gAZWUbjA\|From Deepak Chopra to Wim Hof: When Wellness Turns Dangerous\|center\|\|frame}}

	== Spiritual Stream of Consciousness ==		== Spiritual Stream of Consciousness ==

Fractalguy at 12:57, 19 January 2025

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	[[File:Quantum-woo-chackras-pseudoscience-fractal-woo-consciousness-bullshit.jpg\|thumb\|An [[AI]] interpretation of "Quantum Chackras"]]		[[File:Quantum-woo-chackras-pseudoscience-fractal-woo-consciousness-bullshit.jpg\|thumb\|An [[AI]] interpretation of "Quantum Chackras"]]
	[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woo-woo Woo-woo] is a dismissive term used to refer to unfounded [[spiritual]] [[beliefs]], [[pseudoscientific]] [[wellness]] practices, or [[Theory of everything\|theories of everything]] that have no real [[scientific]] basis.		[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woo-woo Woo-woo] is a dismissive term used to refer to unfounded [[spiritual]] [[beliefs]], [[pseudoscientific]] [[wellness]] practices, or [[Theory of everything\|theories of everything]] that have no real [[scientific]] basis. <blockquote>''"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."'' -[[wikipedia:Carl_Sagan\|Carl Sagan]] </blockquote>A [[universe]] without [[woo]] is still a [[beautiful]] and comprehensible [[universe]] full of [[wonder]], that can make you quite [[happy]] to be [[alive]] if you have the right [[perspective]].

	A [[universe]] without [[woo]] is still a [[beautiful]] and comprehensible [[universe]] full of [[wonder]], that can make you quite [[happy]] to be [[alive]] if you have the right [[perspective]].

	== Quantum Woo and Fractal Woo ==		== Quantum Woo and Fractal Woo ==

Fractalguy: /* Quantum Woo and Fractal Woo */

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Quantum Woo and Fractal Woo

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	There is a similar ''[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Fractal Woo]]'' that tends to show up in the [[wikipedia:Sacred_geometry\|Sacred Geometry]] spaces and among [[psychedelic]] advocates. There's not a lot of [[money]] to be made, so it tends to come more from earnest but less than grounded [[wikipedia:Psychonautics\|psychonauts]] than [[spiritual]] [[grifters]]. Though some are definitely [[crypto-bros]]. The quintessential example of [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal woo]] is called "[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Holofractal]]" and it is discussed on the [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal page]].		There is a similar ''[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Fractal Woo]]'' that tends to show up in the [[wikipedia:Sacred_geometry\|Sacred Geometry]] spaces and among [[psychedelic]] advocates. There's not a lot of [[money]] to be made, so it tends to come more from earnest but less than grounded [[wikipedia:Psychonautics\|psychonauts]] than [[spiritual]] [[grifters]]. Though some are definitely [[crypto-bros]]. The quintessential example of [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal woo]] is called "[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Holofractal]]" and it is discussed on the [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal page]].
	[[File:Quantum-woo-can-explain-everything.png\|thumb\|350x350px\|~~Slap a quantum on it~~ and ~~the rubes will eat it up!~~]]		[[File:Quantum-woo-can-explain-everything.png\|thumb\|350x350px\|Bad sci-fi and bad [[science]] both tend to do this.]]
	The observable effects of [[quantum mechanics]] are irrefutable. The myriad conclusions that people draw from it, from the [[Universe#The Universe of Universes\|multiverse]] to [[consciousness]] and [[free will]] to [[Simulation Theory]], are quantum woo and should not be considered when attempting to determine what the nature of [[reality]] is, or at least the part that matters to your [[life choices]].		The observable effects of [[quantum mechanics]] are irrefutable. The myriad conclusions that people draw from it, from the [[Universe#The Universe of Universes\|multiverse]] to [[consciousness]] and [[free will]] to [[Simulation Theory]], are quantum woo and should not be considered when attempting to determine what the nature of [[reality]] is, or at least the part that matters to your [[life choices]].

Fractalguy at 15:16, 13 January 2025

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	There is a similar ''[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Fractal Woo]]'' that tends to show up in the [[wikipedia:Sacred_geometry\|Sacred Geometry]] spaces and among [[psychedelic]] advocates. There's not a lot of [[money]] to be made, so it tends to come more from earnest but less than grounded [[wikipedia:Psychonautics\|psychonauts]] than [[spiritual]] [[grifters]]. Though some are definitely [[crypto-bros]]. The quintessential example of [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal woo]] is called "[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Holofractal]]" and it is discussed on the [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal page]].		There is a similar ''[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Fractal Woo]]'' that tends to show up in the [[wikipedia:Sacred_geometry\|Sacred Geometry]] spaces and among [[psychedelic]] advocates. There's not a lot of [[money]] to be made, so it tends to come more from earnest but less than grounded [[wikipedia:Psychonautics\|psychonauts]] than [[spiritual]] [[grifters]]. Though some are definitely [[crypto-bros]]. The quintessential example of [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal woo]] is called "[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Holofractal]]" and it is discussed on the [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal page]].
			[[File:Quantum-woo-can-explain-everything.png\|thumb\|350x350px\|Slap a quantum on it and the rubes will eat it up!]]
	The observable effects of [[quantum mechanics]] are irrefutable. The myriad conclusions that people draw from it, from the [[Universe#The Universe of Universes\|multiverse]] to [[consciousness]] and [[free will]] to [[Simulation Theory]], are quantum woo and should not be considered when attempting to determine what the nature of [[reality]] is, or at least the part that matters to your [[life choices]].		The observable effects of [[quantum mechanics]] are irrefutable. The myriad conclusions that people draw from it, from the [[Universe#The Universe of Universes\|multiverse]] to [[consciousness]] and [[free will]] to [[Simulation Theory]], are quantum woo and should not be considered when attempting to determine what the nature of [[reality]] is, or at least the part that matters to your [[life choices]].

Fractalguy: /* Spiritual Stream of Consciousness */

2025-01-09T16:38:03Z

Spiritual Stream of Consciousness

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	May [[authors]] and lecturers on [[spiritual]] topics tend to enter into a kind of "[[spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]]" where they talk about these subjects, making it very hard to process what they are saying [[rationally]]. Sometimes that is the intention--to evoke an [[emotional]] response by using [[poetic]] [[language]]. However, many times they think they are making a well-[[reasoned]] point, but to anyone who isn't steeped in the same [[spiritual]] jargon as them, it comes across as nonsense.		May [[authors]] and lecturers on [[spiritual]] topics tend to enter into a kind of "[[spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]]" where they talk about these subjects, making it very hard to process what they are saying [[rationally]]. Sometimes that is the intention--to evoke an [[emotional]] response by using [[poetic]] [[language]]. However, many times they think they are making a well-[[reasoned]] point, but to anyone who isn't steeped in the same [[spiritual]] jargon as them, it comes across as nonsense.

	[[Spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] is often very repetitive, going over the same [[ideas]] again and again using different metaphors but without providing any new [[information]].		[[Spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] is often very repetitive, going over the same [[ideas]] again and again using different [[metaphors]] but without providing any new [[information]].

			Commitment to using the [[language]] of [[science]] and [[materialism]] can counter this effect by ensuring that commonly recognized terminology is used, and well-[[reasoned]] arguments are [[incentivized]] by the audience.

	This conversation between New Age philosophers Ken Wilber and Tim Freke provides a good example of this. The conversation is ostensibly about answering the question "what is [[life]]?" but one does not feel much closer to an answer at the end of it. While both have very interesting things to say about [[emergent]] [[spirituality]] in their [[books]], their tendency towards [[spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] prevents them from reaching a wider [[secular]] audience. While there are much worse examples that could be provided, this [[wiki]] often uses examples from close [[ideological]] brethren in order to highlight distinctions.		This conversation between New Age philosophers Ken Wilber and Tim Freke provides a good example of this. The conversation is ostensibly about answering the question "what is [[life]]?" but one does not feel much closer to an answer at the end of it. While both have very interesting things to say about [[emergent]] [[spirituality]] in their [[books]], their tendency towards [[spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] prevents them from reaching a wider [[secular]] audience. While there are much worse examples that could be provided, this [[wiki]] often uses examples from close [[ideological]] brethren in order to highlight distinctions.

Fractalguy: /* Observe These Sounds */

2025-01-09T16:31:20Z

Observe These Sounds

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	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dawod05_pi4\|\|center\|What is life? - Philosophers Tim Freke and Ken Wilber in conversation\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dawod05_pi4\|\|center\|What is life? - Philosophers Tim Freke and Ken Wilber in conversation\|frame}}

	== ~~Observe These Sounds~~ ==		== A Rock History of Woo ==
	~~Feel the effect of being an observer.~~
	~~{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7idIgvACBU\|\|center\|Northlane - Quantum Flux\|frame}}~~
	~~<br>~~
	Some of rock's greatest woos starting off with the original.		Some of rock's greatest woos starting off with the original.
	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj059o9OwqY\|\|center\|Little Richard - Tutti Frutti\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj059o9OwqY\|\|center\|Little Richard - Tutti Frutti\|frame}}
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	Most sampled woo of all time from producer James Brown on this track.		Most sampled woo of all time from producer James Brown on this track.
	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCByeJsq65M\|\|center\|Lyn Collins Think (About It)\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCByeJsq65M\|\|center\|Lyn Collins Think (About It)\|frame}}
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			A song about [[quantum mechanics]] for you too.
			{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7idIgvACBU\|\|center\|Northlane - Quantum Flux\|frame}}

Fractalguy: /* Spiritual Stream of Consciousness */

2025-01-09T16:26:04Z

Spiritual Stream of Consciousness

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	[[Spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] is often very repetitive, going over the same [[ideas]] again and again using different metaphors but without providing any new [[information]].		[[Spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] is often very repetitive, going over the same [[ideas]] again and again using different metaphors but without providing any new [[information]].

	This conversation between New Age philosophers Ken Wilber and Tim Freke provides a good example of this. The conversation is ostensibly about answering the question "what is [[life]]?" but one does not feel much closer to an answer at the end of it. While both have very interesting things to say about [[emergent]] [[spirituality]] in their [[books]], their tendency towards [[spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] prevents them from reaching a wider [[secular]] audience. While there are much worse examples ~~of this~~ that could be provided, this [[wiki]] often uses examples from close [[ideological]] brethren in order to highlight distinctions.		This conversation between New Age philosophers Ken Wilber and Tim Freke provides a good example of this. The conversation is ostensibly about answering the question "what is [[life]]?" but one does not feel much closer to an answer at the end of it. While both have very interesting things to say about [[emergent]] [[spirituality]] in their [[books]], their tendency towards [[spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] prevents them from reaching a wider [[secular]] audience. While there are much worse examples that could be provided, this [[wiki]] often uses examples from close [[ideological]] brethren in order to highlight distinctions.
	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dawod05_pi4\|\|center\|What is life? - Philosophers Tim Freke and Ken Wilber in conversation\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dawod05_pi4\|\|center\|What is life? - Philosophers Tim Freke and Ken Wilber in conversation\|frame}}

Fractalguy: /* Spiritual Stream of Consciousness */

2025-01-09T16:25:17Z

Spiritual Stream of Consciousness

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	[[Spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] is often very repetitive, going over the same [[ideas]] again and again using different metaphors but without providing any new [[information]].		[[Spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] is often very repetitive, going over the same [[ideas]] again and again using different metaphors but without providing any new [[information]].

	This conversation between New Age philosophers Ken Wilber and Tim Freke provides a good example of this. The conversation is ostensibly about answering the question "what is [[life]]?" but one does not feel much closer to an answer at the end of it. While both have very interesting things to say about [[emergent]] [[spirituality]] in their [[books]], their tendency towards [[spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] prevents them from reaching a wider [[secular]] audience.		This conversation between New Age philosophers Ken Wilber and Tim Freke provides a good example of this. The conversation is ostensibly about answering the question "what is [[life]]?" but one does not feel much closer to an answer at the end of it. While both have very interesting things to say about [[emergent]] [[spirituality]] in their [[books]], their tendency towards [[spiritual]] stream of [[consciousness]] prevents them from reaching a wider [[secular]] audience. While there are much worse examples of this that could be provided, this [[wiki]] often uses examples from close [[ideological]] brethren in order to highlight distinctions.
	{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dawod05_pi4\|\|center\|What is life? - Philosophers Tim Freke and Ken Wilber in conversation\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dawod05_pi4\|\|center\|What is life? - Philosophers Tim Freke and Ken Wilber in conversation\|frame}}

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	There is a similar ''[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Fractal Woo]]'' that tends to show up in the [[wikipedia:Sacred_geometry\|Sacred Geometry]] spaces and among [[psychedelic]] advocates. There's not a lot of [[money]] to be made, so it tends to come more from earnest but less than grounded [[wikipedia:Psychonautics\|psychonauts]] than [[spiritual]] [[grifters]]. Though some are definitely [[crypto-bros]]. The quintessential example of [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal woo]] is called "[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Holofractal]]" and it is discussed on the [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal page]].		There is a similar ''[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Fractal Woo]]'' that tends to show up in the [[wikipedia:Sacred_geometry\|Sacred Geometry]] spaces and among [[psychedelic]] advocates. There's not a lot of [[money]] to be made, so it tends to come more from earnest but less than grounded [[wikipedia:Psychonautics\|psychonauts]] than [[spiritual]] [[grifters]]. Though some are definitely [[crypto-bros]]. The quintessential example of [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal woo]] is called "[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Holofractal]]" and it is discussed on the [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal page]].
	[[File:Quantum-woo-can-explain-everything.png\|thumb\|350x350px\|~~Slap a quantum on it~~ and ~~the rubes will eat it up!~~]]		[[File:Quantum-woo-can-explain-everything.png\|thumb\|350x350px\|Bad sci-fi and bad [[science]] both tend to do this.]]
	The observable effects of [[quantum mechanics]] are irrefutable. The myriad conclusions that people draw from it, from the [[Universe#The Universe of Universes\|multiverse]] to [[consciousness]] and [[free will]] to [[Simulation Theory]], are quantum woo and should not be considered when attempting to determine what the nature of [[reality]] is, or at least the part that matters to your [[life choices]].		The observable effects of [[quantum mechanics]] are irrefutable. The myriad conclusions that people draw from it, from the [[Universe#The Universe of Universes\|multiverse]] to [[consciousness]] and [[free will]] to [[Simulation Theory]], are quantum woo and should not be considered when attempting to determine what the nature of [[reality]] is, or at least the part that matters to your [[life choices]].

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	There is a similar ''[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Fractal Woo]]'' that tends to show up in the [[wikipedia:Sacred_geometry\|Sacred Geometry]] spaces and among [[psychedelic]] advocates. There's not a lot of [[money]] to be made, so it tends to come more from earnest but less than grounded [[wikipedia:Psychonautics\|psychonauts]] than [[spiritual]] [[grifters]]. Though some are definitely [[crypto-bros]]. The quintessential example of [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal woo]] is called "[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Holofractal]]" and it is discussed on the [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal page]].		There is a similar ''[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Fractal Woo]]'' that tends to show up in the [[wikipedia:Sacred_geometry\|Sacred Geometry]] spaces and among [[psychedelic]] advocates. There's not a lot of [[money]] to be made, so it tends to come more from earnest but less than grounded [[wikipedia:Psychonautics\|psychonauts]] than [[spiritual]] [[grifters]]. Though some are definitely [[crypto-bros]]. The quintessential example of [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal woo]] is called "[[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|Holofractal]]" and it is discussed on the [[Fractal Geometry of God#No Fractal Woo Here\|fractal page]].
			[[File:Quantum-woo-can-explain-everything.png\|thumb\|350x350px\|Slap a quantum on it and the rubes will eat it up!]]
	The observable effects of [[quantum mechanics]] are irrefutable. The myriad conclusions that people draw from it, from the [[Universe#The Universe of Universes\|multiverse]] to [[consciousness]] and [[free will]] to [[Simulation Theory]], are quantum woo and should not be considered when attempting to determine what the nature of [[reality]] is, or at least the part that matters to your [[life choices]].		The observable effects of [[quantum mechanics]] are irrefutable. The myriad conclusions that people draw from it, from the [[Universe#The Universe of Universes\|multiverse]] to [[consciousness]] and [[free will]] to [[Simulation Theory]], are quantum woo and should not be considered when attempting to determine what the nature of [[reality]] is, or at least the part that matters to your [[life choices]].